Like no, but used condition pair of men’s SITKA-timberline-OPTIFADE Style Camouflage pants. SIZE 35- Does not come with the kneepads or suspenders. Waistband measurement lying flat is 18.5 inches, rise is 11 inches, inseam is 32 inches. There is a small imperfection on the back of the pants. It is approximately 1 inch below the waistband. Not a hole, but a small fray. You can see that in the pics - I take great pride in my closet- I DO NOT SELL JUNK… IF there is a flaw with my listing- I will disclose it and show in pictures. **THE MORE YOU BUNDLE—THE DEEPER DISCOUNT** FREE GIFT WITH EVERY PURCHASE!! * All items are In Excellent Used Condition-unless noted- * All snaps, buttons, rivets, stitching , seams, appliqués, embroidery (etc) are intact and none missing.(unless noted) * **Comes from CLEAN-smoke and pet FREE home. * **No holes, tears or stains-(unless noted) * **SAME DAY/NEXT DAY SHIPPER!! * All sales are final— I take great pictures and give good descriptions- if questions—- please ask. **LOVE the item but not the price?? Send me your best offer